Beginning on page 103 of Plato’s Gorgias, Socrates and Callicles are debating and pondering the difference between the pleasant and the good.  Socrates tries to get his point across to Callicles in an attacking and demanding manner.  Callicles listens to Socrates as he says the good should be the reason we do pleasant things.  Also, Socrates explains how the quality of being pleasant makes us enjoy things and the quality of being good makes us good.

This conversation about the difference between the pleasant and the good continues with the question on how to be a good human being.  Socrates states that it always takes a specific state of goodness to be good at anything.  For anything to be good, it must take on organization and perfection.  Basically, Socrates concluded that a good state is an organized and orderly state.  He also explains how a self-disciplined mind is a good mind, unlike a mind that is undisciplined and self-indulgent.

This conversation was easy to relate to and understand.  All of the claims Socrates was explaining to Callicles made sense and were correct, especially the claim stating that the quality of being pleasant makes people enjoy things while the quality of being good makes people good.

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