One passage that immediately stood out to me was early on in the reading when Socrates and Callicles are arguing. Callicles puts Socrates on the spot in the sense, questioning whether the truth is really Socrates’ goal. The core of this argument comes from the topic of living a life of self-discipline and self-indulgent freedom. The reason this passage stood out to me was because at this point, near the bottom of page 79, the argument started, in my opinion, to take more intensity and detail.

This argument of self-discipline is one of much depth. Early on, the two start by discussing what exactly the definition of this term is. Socrates is doing most of the talking early on, saying what exactly he thinks self discipline is. On page 78, Callicles says, “What a naive thing to say! By ‘self discipline’ you mean ‘folly'”(78). This really ticks Socrates off so to speak, but Callicles takes a page or so to explain his position. In this explanation, Callicles says, “… if you want to hear the truth, it is that if a person has the means to live a life of sensual, self-indulgent freedom, there’s no better or happier state of existence”(79). This is a powerful sentence to end his argument and it seems to hit Socrates by suprise, as his response isn’t very substantial or critical of what Callicles says.

The reason this passage caught my attention is because in my oppinion, Callicles won this argument. In my experience of reading Gorgias, Socrates usually has the better side of the argument. All in all, looking back, I realized that was Callicles had to say about living this life of self-discipline just stood out to me more and made more sense.

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